Episode 86 Audio: Ken Klippenstein

From an assessment of the motives behind Trump’s retention of classified info to explainers on the Espionage Act, Special Access Programs, and everything else that’s further complicating the debacle at Mar-a-Lago, our guest Ken Klippenstein joins us to demystify the raid on Trump’s property and give us some insight into what comes next.

This discussion of how Trump went rogue with top-secret government intel fits into a longer timeline of Trump’s cavalier approach to classified info — like his Twitter calls to declassify Russiagate info, which his administration later nullified. With Ken leading the way, we put it all in context, adding our own ideas about Trump’s future plans for presidential races, strengthening Saudi ties, and more. We hope you’ll enjoy the conversation, and as always, we’re grateful to you for listening. This episode is also available on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, Pandora, and more.