Is it not time that he and his "Jacobin" paper takes a stand and state that It is time to openly state what we all know:
Russia-gate is perhaps the worst scam in US history
Promoted by neoliberals who lost to a TV host. Instead of reflection, they latched onto a moronic conspiracy theory and stayed with it for four+ years. Protests by Trump supporters will now be maximally used to silence any criticism and disclosures (including Biden-family corruption).
The Russia-gate hoax and Ukraine-impeachment “entertainment” was concocted by Obama/Hillary/Biden/Pelosi, Schumer, etc. and their intelligence and DNC executives on behalf of their Wall Street and military industry donors. Currently, by far the highest need and interest of incoming government and the DNC cabal is that Russia-gate immense hoax will NOT be exposed -- that is a huge potential threat. Hence many IOU's to primary propagandists, including Hillary's protégé Kamala Harris, Neera Tanden, Pete Buttigieg (for playing his role in falsely claiming a win in Iowa), etc,
Democrat Party can't start to change without facing its own monumental years-long fraud first. I hope that you, Mr. Sunkara, will lead into the future by stating the obvious truth.
Whew! I didn't know so many people died from "Russiagate" for it to be the WORST scam. Easily the Gulf War is worse than that, but I would even put the Y2K scare/scam before Russiagate dude
Could you get Richard Wolff on the show? I know he's a very busy man, but please try! Seems to be that if we want change we have to create it ourselves and Wolff is doing that through Democracy @ Work, which he founded. They give support to people setting up new worker-owned co-ops, which I think is the only lasting solution to the injustice of capitalism.
I like Wolff, but what happens when mechanization and Ai replace most of the labor humans do today? According to Wolff, democracy/socialism is defined by the predominance of democratic workplaces. When the elite no longer need our labor they don't need us, just saying. That may be their main climate change mitigation strategy in the long run...
''I would have voted for Biden in a swing state.''
This is part of the problem.
If a large enough coalition of the ''I am mad as hell, and I won't take it anymore'' Dems – in the swing states – would threaten the Dem establishment with voting third party or not voting, then Ralph Nader could negotiate some concessions in exchange for the vote. If the Dem establishment knows you will always vote blue no matter who in a swing state – forget about it.
IMP, on the subject of Trump and what to do with him we have enough problems to deal with and the left especially becomes overly distracted. We cannot walk and chew gum as much as we claim or want to believe so let’s focus on what our party is named after. Let’s help, aid, assist our beautiful, amazing, hard-working, suffering and dying Americans dammit.
If there is any vestiges of remembrance of morality left in this damn party, after soaking up the spoils of corporate power, fame, and celebrity status, then I pray we can actually without being disingenuous or duplicitous fight for the people for once.
But sadly it takes suffering and dying in mass quantities for people to wake the fuck up. For many if it doesn’t materially disadvantage them they don’t fight as hard as others who have less. We project our noble intent on others with some moral chastising while in reality we’re devoid of any empathy within ourselves. I see too often the left’s hypocritical nature while projecting their self righteousness on to others and it disgust me.
We can’t even get together, in a call to arms(arms of solidarity not weapons), to help the Americans who are dying right now. Instead, we’re having debates or discussion about what we’re gonna do about Trump and I’m sorry but not sorry I think there’s more important things to be thinking about and it shouldn’t be a contest. It’s just a luxury in my opinion while others don’t have that luxury to debate what’s going to happen with Trump and I think that perspective needs to be given to put things in more of a realistic context.
Realigning the political debate around arbitrary lines of class struggle does not seem to actually offer solutions. Y'all need to provide more insight into where policy meets action. Ultimately, the 'left' has to solve for the classical problem of socialism - how to fairly and humanly treat willing and unwilling freeloaders.
You two should try and get Michael Mann on to talk about climate change. He is releasing a new book soon called The New Climate War: The Fight to Take Back Our Planet.
2020 was a bad year for economic progressives seeking reform in the Democratic Party. That movement was routed and then disciplined pretty much to the level of being forced to acknowledge unconditional surrender.
So what next?
I think a 3rd party could play a part but won't work on its own. As we have seen often enough, Ds know how to ratf**k primaries and internal party decision making while the Rs know how to ratf**k elections. A 3rd party doesn't stand a chance against their combined corruption.
Let's be clear. Popular economic politics belongs in the D party. Defending the status quo, free enterprise and private property rights against popular economic politics belongs in the R party. The party that presented itself at the Aug 2020 DNC was republican. Hence I think the goal should be to force the republicans that currently cosplay as Democrats and control the D party to change sides.
How? We need to do what Sanders should have done at the beginning of March after Obama's night of the long knives: make the party unelectable. This means going way beyond trading loyalty for policy items. It means committing to sabotaging the D party's election chances for as long as it takes until the republicans leave the D party or die out as a generation.
I think y'all need to consider if anything less than this really stands a chance to break the duopoly.
What is this guy, a CIA plant? There is too much pain and suffering out there to just wait it out. Prosecute the inciters, or we will have much worse to contend with.
A question for your guest -- Bhaskar Sunkara.
Is it not time that he and his "Jacobin" paper takes a stand and state that It is time to openly state what we all know:
Russia-gate is perhaps the worst scam in US history
Promoted by neoliberals who lost to a TV host. Instead of reflection, they latched onto a moronic conspiracy theory and stayed with it for four+ years. Protests by Trump supporters will now be maximally used to silence any criticism and disclosures (including Biden-family corruption).
The Russia-gate hoax and Ukraine-impeachment “entertainment” was concocted by Obama/Hillary/Biden/Pelosi, Schumer, etc. and their intelligence and DNC executives on behalf of their Wall Street and military industry donors. Currently, by far the highest need and interest of incoming government and the DNC cabal is that Russia-gate immense hoax will NOT be exposed -- that is a huge potential threat. Hence many IOU's to primary propagandists, including Hillary's protégé Kamala Harris, Neera Tanden, Pete Buttigieg (for playing his role in falsely claiming a win in Iowa), etc,
Democrat Party can't start to change without facing its own monumental years-long fraud first. I hope that you, Mr. Sunkara, will lead into the future by stating the obvious truth.
Whew! I didn't know so many people died from "Russiagate" for it to be the WORST scam. Easily the Gulf War is worse than that, but I would even put the Y2K scare/scam before Russiagate dude
Once again, quickest hour and a half (plus) I've experienced in regards to watching a political post. Thanks Krystal & Kyle
Could you get Richard Wolff on the show? I know he's a very busy man, but please try! Seems to be that if we want change we have to create it ourselves and Wolff is doing that through Democracy @ Work, which he founded. They give support to people setting up new worker-owned co-ops, which I think is the only lasting solution to the injustice of capitalism.
I like Wolff, but what happens when mechanization and Ai replace most of the labor humans do today? According to Wolff, democracy/socialism is defined by the predominance of democratic workplaces. When the elite no longer need our labor they don't need us, just saying. That may be their main climate change mitigation strategy in the long run...
''I would have voted for Biden in a swing state.''
This is part of the problem.
If a large enough coalition of the ''I am mad as hell, and I won't take it anymore'' Dems – in the swing states – would threaten the Dem establishment with voting third party or not voting, then Ralph Nader could negotiate some concessions in exchange for the vote. If the Dem establishment knows you will always vote blue no matter who in a swing state – forget about it.
IMP, on the subject of Trump and what to do with him we have enough problems to deal with and the left especially becomes overly distracted. We cannot walk and chew gum as much as we claim or want to believe so let’s focus on what our party is named after. Let’s help, aid, assist our beautiful, amazing, hard-working, suffering and dying Americans dammit.
If there is any vestiges of remembrance of morality left in this damn party, after soaking up the spoils of corporate power, fame, and celebrity status, then I pray we can actually without being disingenuous or duplicitous fight for the people for once.
But sadly it takes suffering and dying in mass quantities for people to wake the fuck up. For many if it doesn’t materially disadvantage them they don’t fight as hard as others who have less. We project our noble intent on others with some moral chastising while in reality we’re devoid of any empathy within ourselves. I see too often the left’s hypocritical nature while projecting their self righteousness on to others and it disgust me.
We can’t even get together, in a call to arms(arms of solidarity not weapons), to help the Americans who are dying right now. Instead, we’re having debates or discussion about what we’re gonna do about Trump and I’m sorry but not sorry I think there’s more important things to be thinking about and it shouldn’t be a contest. It’s just a luxury in my opinion while others don’t have that luxury to debate what’s going to happen with Trump and I think that perspective needs to be given to put things in more of a realistic context.
Anyone else feel so relaxed while listening you think something must be wrong? Such an insane week but to end it on a high note is nice
Realigning the political debate around arbitrary lines of class struggle does not seem to actually offer solutions. Y'all need to provide more insight into where policy meets action. Ultimately, the 'left' has to solve for the classical problem of socialism - how to fairly and humanly treat willing and unwilling freeloaders.
You two should try and get Michael Mann on to talk about climate change. He is releasing a new book soon called The New Climate War: The Fight to Take Back Our Planet.
2020 was a bad year for economic progressives seeking reform in the Democratic Party. That movement was routed and then disciplined pretty much to the level of being forced to acknowledge unconditional surrender.
So what next?
I think a 3rd party could play a part but won't work on its own. As we have seen often enough, Ds know how to ratf**k primaries and internal party decision making while the Rs know how to ratf**k elections. A 3rd party doesn't stand a chance against their combined corruption.
Let's be clear. Popular economic politics belongs in the D party. Defending the status quo, free enterprise and private property rights against popular economic politics belongs in the R party. The party that presented itself at the Aug 2020 DNC was republican. Hence I think the goal should be to force the republicans that currently cosplay as Democrats and control the D party to change sides.
How? We need to do what Sanders should have done at the beginning of March after Obama's night of the long knives: make the party unelectable. This means going way beyond trading loyalty for policy items. It means committing to sabotaging the D party's election chances for as long as it takes until the republicans leave the D party or die out as a generation.
I think y'all need to consider if anything less than this really stands a chance to break the duopoly.
Please ask the guests about where they stand on #forcethevote. We need to know who are allies really are
What is this guy, a CIA plant? There is too much pain and suffering out there to just wait it out. Prosecute the inciters, or we will have much worse to contend with.
RE: A cognitive boost - "I want what he's having." Had the same thought about ..... older candidates and wonder what the boost might be.
Please stop referring to Wednesdy's events as a "revolt" or a "rebellion" or an "insurrection". It was nothing of the sort.
It was an attempt at a putsch. A good old-fashioned fascist putsch (Mussolini; Hitler).
A beer-belly putsch.
Can y’all fix the volume? It’s too quiet.