As a conservative republican, I subscribed to this podcast to hear about opposing views. However, I am disappointed with liberal thinkers who come on this podcast. The minimum wage is already close to 15 dollars in major cities like New York, LA , San Fransisco and Seattle. It will be 15 dollars soon in other big cities as well. However, this has not improved outcomes of poor people in big cities. Liberals have abandoned what makes families successful. A married family with two parents is always better as it insulates the economic pain from job loss of one member. It will make sure children have two parents who care and could work out schedules to take care of home and family. Faith, Family and community are age old cornerstones of success. Liberals have ignored this, no amount of welfare can substitute stable family's role in children's success.
Yeah that is because if production was tied to production the American worker would be making more along the lines of $23/h right now (as it was before the '81 "Regan 'Revolution'". $15 isn't enough, and that is why your are simultaneously correct and also incorrect. However, the ideological qualifier you use is also incorrect. If you want liberalism go elsewhere, this is more of a Marxist / socialist channel.
Thank you for the explanation. However, I have to say I am not entirely convinced by the analysis. They say the GDP per capita has increased five fold from 1980 to 2020 (13000 to 65000) , but wages ( median family income as an example in 1980 was 21000 , today it is 65000) have increased only three fold. However, this trend is reflected in all of western world.
This can be explained by the fact that GDP increase came due to technological progress ( computer, internet etc) and not due to work force being more productive. Between 1950s to 1980s ( the post war era) there was not much technological change, hence all the GDP increase was due to increase in labour force productivity. But 1990s to 2020, we have had massive changes in technology.
Okay, my intentions is not to fully change your mind. However, with all the technological advancement, there was never even a single breath given to the human condition. Why? Well here's my interpretation along with many others of my persuasion. "If the production rises so frequently due to say something like automation, then why is it not proportionately influenced by wages? Well there is no democracy in the workplace. Not to displace the founders of a company, but to better represent the influence of the entire entity. If democracy was introduced into the workplace, the heads will be equally represented with or without the automation. The workers would influence wages via democracy along with the singular votes of the heads, as our own singular votes. This is not how we currently function. It should be, as we would avoid the separation and deportation of our wages and jobs elsewhere." My point here is similar to many on the left, and I certainly don't speak for "all of us", nor do I ever try. However, if we as a gathering / society of people thrive to be democratize (small d) one. I personally think that the divergence of wages and productivity would never have been allowed. Seeing as we spend over 70% of our adult lives engaging in our productive workplaces, then you would instill democracy first there and later within our personal lives. Contrarily, we have ended up by coincidence doing this in reverse. Go figure. Point being, if democracy was placed within the workplace, this divergence could've been avoided. Think of it this way. If your company calls you for a vote, and the vote is to send your neighbors job overseas to China; would you vote to send it or keep it? Guess what, if your job is being voted on to be replaced by a robot you'd hope your neighbor would want to keep your job as well. Nevertheless, automation is going to happen but there are other ways around this. For instance, you can keep paying the workers wages as if they worked for 5 days but they only do that for 4 days proportionally displaced over the entire week. This would allow for more free-time and health of the workers on the whole. I see your point and think it may influence some divergence of wages vs. production, certainly though not as much as you seem to attribute, in fact, not even close, and even if so; it is not workable at this given point in time.
All that may be true, but progressive states like California are moving us towards low wages. In a state wide referendum regarding Uber, door dash and wages. The citizens of California voted to approve gig work by 60% (California Proposition 22). This is one of ways, GDP increases with no wage growth. Taxi drivers are driving more that leads to higher GDP, but wages they earn has plummeted as many gig workers work for low wages.
If liberal citizens in California vote against paying 10-15% more for their taxi rides and food delivery to make sure their fellow citizens do not earn poverty wages. Why do you expect a share holder not to vote for higher profit margins.
Liberals do tend to ignore the ''family'' aspect of culture and politics. It's funny though, here in the Netherlands I see a shift with (corporate)neo-progressive. Really pandering to the family millennial types.
$15.00 an hour in out-of-control expensive cities like NY, LA, San Fran and Seattle are nothing close to a livable wage. It isn't a livable wage in most places in the U.S. at this point. It isn't in line with inflation, health care costs, housing costs, etc. You are burying the lead. Yes, two incomes are always better than one, but not everyone has the luxury having that for many many reasons. And, even families with two parents and potentially two incomes struggle not just with their expenses, but childcare and scheduling. If both parents are working, which most must, the issue of scheduling and child care is still a big one. Higher incomes help with all of that, such as perhaps allowing one parent to work part time or being able to afford child care. What gives families a fighting chance of being successful and all people, in families or not, is being paid a wage that allows them to pay their bills, have a safety net and live a dignified and reasonably unstressed life.
You are right, I think you really are correct. About the family thing. The minimum wage should probably be different in every state, right? PS: Great to see you here! I think we could all use a little nuanced, good-faith conversation. So glad to see you as a conservative joining us!
Thank you. I am sure as conservatives we have a lot to learn from the left. I try to listen to opposing views to understand issues better.
As a doctor who serves in West Virginia, I have seen not all free market ideas work, especially unfettered free market for healthcare. As an oncologist, I ask my patients to get MRI or CT scans regularly. I was horrified by the fact that some of my uninsured patients ended up paying thousands of dollars for a diagnostic MRI or CT scan. As a doctor, I feel so helpless not able help my patients get simple diagnostic scans without having to drain their life savings.
$15 minimum wage would be a game changer for us here in Idaho. I have 100 employees. Starting wage is above living wage ($11.40 in Idaho) in our company. We pay above $15 to most of them already, managers making $25/hr, everyone earns sick and vacation pay (up 2 weeks/yr for new employees and up to 5 weeks/per year for managers) and we offer maternity and paternity leave. We offer and pay for 50% health insurance to full time workers (30hrs/wk+) and this year are starting a matching 401k program. This is the stuff that is good for families, and eases economic pain--ask anyone who works for me. Oh and my business is a restaurant. In an economically depressed county. And I can still afford my Lexus. Suuuuuuuuuuuck it
Congratulations on being a successful business owner. Have you considered that by having generous pay and benefits your business is able to attract better workers than an average McDonalds? By having a government mandate to have higher pay and benefits would actually hurt your business as you might have to increase the pay beyond minimum wage and mandated benefits to still be a competitive employer able to attract talented workers.
Not to be TOO petty, but if you cannot spell Francisco, your policy views are highly questionable. Read more. Learn about reality instead of relying on faith.
I don't know when you record these interviews, so maybe it's too late, but if not: please ask Dylan about his work on sustainable architecture with the Helical Farms Outpost project!
Thank you sooo much for bringing us Dylan Ratigan. The corruption is definitely bi-partisan -- note critique of Neera Tanden was for her obscene tweets - not massive Hillary Clinton fund massive corruption that she managed.
We have now entered a new phase -- beyond "just" chronic corruption. Direct attack on freedom of speech and publishers are no longer limited to publisher Julian Assange -- although silence by Democrat politicians and corporate media was deafening. Even once independent TYT and The Intercept have been coopted, i.e., corrupted, and actively participate in defamation of Julian Assange.
However, the recent letter by two California House "lifers" and useless Democrats Anna Eshoo and Jerry McNerney to CEO's of cable companies are truly unparalleled and represents the rise of fascism in the US -- under a guise of "fighting fascism." All these multiple attacks are clearly carefully choreographed and coordinated -- easily predicted and well understood since we should always keep in mind that there is one huge elephant in the room:
The scam of the century - the now 5-year long Russia-gate hoax initiated by Obama/Biden administration
The Russia-gate hoax and two-impeachment “entertainments” were concocted by Obama/Hillary/Biden/Pelosi, Schumer, Schiff, Maxine Waters, Jamie Ruskin, etc., etc. -- and their intelligence and DNC executives on behalf of their Wall Street and military and security industry donors, i.e., the War party
By far the absolutely highest need and interest of Biden government and its DNC oligarch cabal is that Russia-gate immense hoax – the scam of the century -- will NOT / will NEVER be exposed.
This represents a new phase of US domestic politics -- on foreign policy oligarchs of both parties are united.
Hence immense obligations to primary propagandists for their roles, including despicable Kamala Harris (Hillary’s protégé), Neera Tanden, Melissa Hodgman (wife of the Comey’s infamous Peter Strzok), Pete Buttigieg, etc, and media executives.
The question is perhaps: Who will be the first Democrat Congressman or Senator to publicly confirm the Russia-gate conspiracy? There is absolutely no "unity and healing" until that... Trump’s utter incompetence in handling Covid-19 created the human and economic catastrophe that should enter US history named as - Trump-virus. He brought into government religious extremism and racism. The next "Trump" will be more competent and more dangerous.
Democrats are now introducing extreme measures -- massive censorship and silencing of opponents. This is a sure sign of utter desperation of DNC corrupt and sclerotic leadership and its likely defeat and obliteration in next elections
Further to this discussion, you should look at the larger (Global Corporate Coup d'État) a.k.a the Great "Reset" or "Corporate Coup" which has been slowly rolling forward for the past few decades and is now poised to happen...
Here is an interview on TheAnalysis-news (Jay Paul's) between Lynn Fries of GPS Global Political News Docs and Nick Buxton of the Trans National Institute https://youtu.be/DSK_LUkw9Cc
No one is really covering this and it is the Meta Story riding on top of what we see playing out in the US, UK and elsewhere as the corruption of government by the Corporate Elite. The Davonians (i.e. Transnational Corporate Elite who's tribe gathers together in Davos each year to compare evil plans for the world economic domination summit... a.k.a World Economic Forum)
During the interview, Nick Buxton references one of the great Democratic Socialist Tony Ben of UK Labour party fame (1925-2014) who published the 1979 book "Arguments for Socialism" and famously always asked the following 5 key questions about examining political power:
Also, a book from Nick Buxton & Ben Hayes: The Secure and the Dispossessed - How the military and corporations are seeking to shape a climate-changed world (Pluto Press 2016)
As a conservative republican, I subscribed to this podcast to hear about opposing views. However, I am disappointed with liberal thinkers who come on this podcast. The minimum wage is already close to 15 dollars in major cities like New York, LA , San Fransisco and Seattle. It will be 15 dollars soon in other big cities as well. However, this has not improved outcomes of poor people in big cities. Liberals have abandoned what makes families successful. A married family with two parents is always better as it insulates the economic pain from job loss of one member. It will make sure children have two parents who care and could work out schedules to take care of home and family. Faith, Family and community are age old cornerstones of success. Liberals have ignored this, no amount of welfare can substitute stable family's role in children's success.
Yeah that is because if production was tied to production the American worker would be making more along the lines of $23/h right now (as it was before the '81 "Regan 'Revolution'". $15 isn't enough, and that is why your are simultaneously correct and also incorrect. However, the ideological qualifier you use is also incorrect. If you want liberalism go elsewhere, this is more of a Marxist / socialist channel.
I am not sure where you get these fake stats from. The minimum wage on Jan 1, 1981 was a 3.35 dollars (https://www.dol.gov/agencies/whd/minimum-wage/history/chart). Accounting for inflation according to labour department CPI data, the equivalent wage would be $10.07 (https://www.bls.gov/data/inflation_calculator.htm) and not $23
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=loXyY9pnFrQ https://www.epi.org/productivity-pay-gap/ It's called the EPI. I meant to say Productivity tied to Wages. Simple brain fart I guess. Well anyways hope you enjoy the dig. I wish you all the best.
Thank you for the explanation. However, I have to say I am not entirely convinced by the analysis. They say the GDP per capita has increased five fold from 1980 to 2020 (13000 to 65000) , but wages ( median family income as an example in 1980 was 21000 , today it is 65000) have increased only three fold. However, this trend is reflected in all of western world.
This can be explained by the fact that GDP increase came due to technological progress ( computer, internet etc) and not due to work force being more productive. Between 1950s to 1980s ( the post war era) there was not much technological change, hence all the GDP increase was due to increase in labour force productivity. But 1990s to 2020, we have had massive changes in technology.
Okay, my intentions is not to fully change your mind. However, with all the technological advancement, there was never even a single breath given to the human condition. Why? Well here's my interpretation along with many others of my persuasion. "If the production rises so frequently due to say something like automation, then why is it not proportionately influenced by wages? Well there is no democracy in the workplace. Not to displace the founders of a company, but to better represent the influence of the entire entity. If democracy was introduced into the workplace, the heads will be equally represented with or without the automation. The workers would influence wages via democracy along with the singular votes of the heads, as our own singular votes. This is not how we currently function. It should be, as we would avoid the separation and deportation of our wages and jobs elsewhere." My point here is similar to many on the left, and I certainly don't speak for "all of us", nor do I ever try. However, if we as a gathering / society of people thrive to be democratize (small d) one. I personally think that the divergence of wages and productivity would never have been allowed. Seeing as we spend over 70% of our adult lives engaging in our productive workplaces, then you would instill democracy first there and later within our personal lives. Contrarily, we have ended up by coincidence doing this in reverse. Go figure. Point being, if democracy was placed within the workplace, this divergence could've been avoided. Think of it this way. If your company calls you for a vote, and the vote is to send your neighbors job overseas to China; would you vote to send it or keep it? Guess what, if your job is being voted on to be replaced by a robot you'd hope your neighbor would want to keep your job as well. Nevertheless, automation is going to happen but there are other ways around this. For instance, you can keep paying the workers wages as if they worked for 5 days but they only do that for 4 days proportionally displaced over the entire week. This would allow for more free-time and health of the workers on the whole. I see your point and think it may influence some divergence of wages vs. production, certainly though not as much as you seem to attribute, in fact, not even close, and even if so; it is not workable at this given point in time.
All that may be true, but progressive states like California are moving us towards low wages. In a state wide referendum regarding Uber, door dash and wages. The citizens of California voted to approve gig work by 60% (California Proposition 22). This is one of ways, GDP increases with no wage growth. Taxi drivers are driving more that leads to higher GDP, but wages they earn has plummeted as many gig workers work for low wages.
If liberal citizens in California vote against paying 10-15% more for their taxi rides and food delivery to make sure their fellow citizens do not earn poverty wages. Why do you expect a share holder not to vote for higher profit margins.
"Liberals have ignored this" ? Ignored what? "Faith"? Are you kidding me...?? Faith in what, exactly?
Liberals do tend to ignore the ''family'' aspect of culture and politics. It's funny though, here in the Netherlands I see a shift with (corporate)neo-progressive. Really pandering to the family millennial types.
$15.00 an hour in out-of-control expensive cities like NY, LA, San Fran and Seattle are nothing close to a livable wage. It isn't a livable wage in most places in the U.S. at this point. It isn't in line with inflation, health care costs, housing costs, etc. You are burying the lead. Yes, two incomes are always better than one, but not everyone has the luxury having that for many many reasons. And, even families with two parents and potentially two incomes struggle not just with their expenses, but childcare and scheduling. If both parents are working, which most must, the issue of scheduling and child care is still a big one. Higher incomes help with all of that, such as perhaps allowing one parent to work part time or being able to afford child care. What gives families a fighting chance of being successful and all people, in families or not, is being paid a wage that allows them to pay their bills, have a safety net and live a dignified and reasonably unstressed life.
You are right, I think you really are correct. About the family thing. The minimum wage should probably be different in every state, right? PS: Great to see you here! I think we could all use a little nuanced, good-faith conversation. So glad to see you as a conservative joining us!
Thank you. I am sure as conservatives we have a lot to learn from the left. I try to listen to opposing views to understand issues better.
As a doctor who serves in West Virginia, I have seen not all free market ideas work, especially unfettered free market for healthcare. As an oncologist, I ask my patients to get MRI or CT scans regularly. I was horrified by the fact that some of my uninsured patients ended up paying thousands of dollars for a diagnostic MRI or CT scan. As a doctor, I feel so helpless not able help my patients get simple diagnostic scans without having to drain their life savings.
$15 minimum wage would be a game changer for us here in Idaho. I have 100 employees. Starting wage is above living wage ($11.40 in Idaho) in our company. We pay above $15 to most of them already, managers making $25/hr, everyone earns sick and vacation pay (up 2 weeks/yr for new employees and up to 5 weeks/per year for managers) and we offer maternity and paternity leave. We offer and pay for 50% health insurance to full time workers (30hrs/wk+) and this year are starting a matching 401k program. This is the stuff that is good for families, and eases economic pain--ask anyone who works for me. Oh and my business is a restaurant. In an economically depressed county. And I can still afford my Lexus. Suuuuuuuuuuuck it
Congratulations on being a successful business owner. Have you considered that by having generous pay and benefits your business is able to attract better workers than an average McDonalds? By having a government mandate to have higher pay and benefits would actually hurt your business as you might have to increase the pay beyond minimum wage and mandated benefits to still be a competitive employer able to attract talented workers.
Not to be TOO petty, but if you cannot spell Francisco, your policy views are highly questionable. Read more. Learn about reality instead of relying on faith.
Yeah. But then you are MARRIED. I pass, the personal cost is too much.
I don't know when you record these interviews, so maybe it's too late, but if not: please ask Dylan about his work on sustainable architecture with the Helical Farms Outpost project!
Thank you sooo much for bringing us Dylan Ratigan. The corruption is definitely bi-partisan -- note critique of Neera Tanden was for her obscene tweets - not massive Hillary Clinton fund massive corruption that she managed.
We have now entered a new phase -- beyond "just" chronic corruption. Direct attack on freedom of speech and publishers are no longer limited to publisher Julian Assange -- although silence by Democrat politicians and corporate media was deafening. Even once independent TYT and The Intercept have been coopted, i.e., corrupted, and actively participate in defamation of Julian Assange.
However, the recent letter by two California House "lifers" and useless Democrats Anna Eshoo and Jerry McNerney to CEO's of cable companies are truly unparalleled and represents the rise of fascism in the US -- under a guise of "fighting fascism." All these multiple attacks are clearly carefully choreographed and coordinated -- easily predicted and well understood since we should always keep in mind that there is one huge elephant in the room:
The scam of the century - the now 5-year long Russia-gate hoax initiated by Obama/Biden administration
The Russia-gate hoax and two-impeachment “entertainments” were concocted by Obama/Hillary/Biden/Pelosi, Schumer, Schiff, Maxine Waters, Jamie Ruskin, etc., etc. -- and their intelligence and DNC executives on behalf of their Wall Street and military and security industry donors, i.e., the War party
By far the absolutely highest need and interest of Biden government and its DNC oligarch cabal is that Russia-gate immense hoax – the scam of the century -- will NOT / will NEVER be exposed.
This represents a new phase of US domestic politics -- on foreign policy oligarchs of both parties are united.
Hence immense obligations to primary propagandists for their roles, including despicable Kamala Harris (Hillary’s protégé), Neera Tanden, Melissa Hodgman (wife of the Comey’s infamous Peter Strzok), Pete Buttigieg, etc, and media executives.
The question is perhaps: Who will be the first Democrat Congressman or Senator to publicly confirm the Russia-gate conspiracy? There is absolutely no "unity and healing" until that... Trump’s utter incompetence in handling Covid-19 created the human and economic catastrophe that should enter US history named as - Trump-virus. He brought into government religious extremism and racism. The next "Trump" will be more competent and more dangerous.
Democrats are now introducing extreme measures -- massive censorship and silencing of opponents. This is a sure sign of utter desperation of DNC corrupt and sclerotic leadership and its likely defeat and obliteration in next elections
Further to this discussion, you should look at the larger (Global Corporate Coup d'État) a.k.a the Great "Reset" or "Corporate Coup" which has been slowly rolling forward for the past few decades and is now poised to happen...
Here is an interview on TheAnalysis-news (Jay Paul's) between Lynn Fries of GPS Global Political News Docs and Nick Buxton of the Trans National Institute https://youtu.be/DSK_LUkw9Cc
No one is really covering this and it is the Meta Story riding on top of what we see playing out in the US, UK and elsewhere as the corruption of government by the Corporate Elite. The Davonians (i.e. Transnational Corporate Elite who's tribe gathers together in Davos each year to compare evil plans for the world economic domination summit... a.k.a World Economic Forum)
TNI https://www.tni.org/en/page/staff where Nick Buxton works and http://www.TheAnalysis.news are great sources I follow.
During the interview, Nick Buxton references one of the great Democratic Socialist Tony Ben of UK Labour party fame (1925-2014) who published the 1979 book "Arguments for Socialism" and famously always asked the following 5 key questions about examining political power:
“What power have you got?”
“Where did you get it from?”
“In whose interests do you use it?”
“To whom are you accountable?”
“How do we get rid of you?”
Also, a book from Nick Buxton & Ben Hayes: The Secure and the Dispossessed - How the military and corporations are seeking to shape a climate-changed world (Pluto Press 2016)
https://www.jstor.org/stable/j.ctt18gzdk7
“How do we get rid of you?” The best question!